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 Gloucester MFC






The weeks flying  at Gloucester MFC 

Thursday evening seems to have been heli night

Photo CB's Trex 600e

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New Minium
  MINIUM CHRISTEN EAGLE II Readyset (Rainbow) 

Another weather station is on line, this one at Bisley have a look 

Picture the scene. The MPX Fox glider had been converted to use a small rocket motor for motive power. Thinking back to last summer when we first attempted it, the design and calculations couldn't possibly be wrong this time? Could they? Using a Rocket motor to boost the RC converted MPX Fox couldn't possibly go wrong a second time round.....

YouTube - MPX Rocket Fox Mk2  please don't laugh it is not funny

JET BREAKS UP  in flight


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From Andy Westgate
Finished my loft conversion and am now building my first scale glider in a long time. Remember my little Cicogna vintage (bottom left) flying wing, well I’m now doing 1/3 scale one at 4.5mtrs span…electric powered

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A poor man's F5B
 F5B gliders got to be called Hotliner due to the amount of power fed to the electric motor, this was around 3000 watts, an awesome amount of power for a two metre glider  weighing around 2,000 grams. Power is now electronically limited to 1750 watts for competitions
They were  required to do two tasks, the first a distance event where the pilot tries to get as many laps between two sighting devices set 150 meters apart during a 200 second window. The motor  can only be run when the plane is off the course.  and can fly at over 175mph in the distance task The second task is a 10 minute duration flight. In this  the pilot works to keep the plane in the air for ten minutes using as little motor as possible. At the end of the ten minutes there is a spot landing. The current F5B planes can fly the ten minute duration with five seconds of motor run.
Most models sold as hotliners are not very hot and more like over powered Self launching gliders, they would be unlikely to glide at over a 100MPH or complete a 10 minute thermal task.

My recently acquired Aquila is such a model, only Luke warm at just 500watts, I was given this model by someone who likes to take life at a gentler pace

This was fitted with a direct drive  speed 600,  this has come out and replaced with a Turnigy  HXT 35-42A brushless, a cheap version of the AXI 2820 with poor bearings and weak magnets 8% down on power as well, but at only $24 a bargain, I  paid £10 second hand, This draws 44amps from a 2200ma Zippy 3s turning a 11 X 6 folding prop

Input Voltage : 7.4V~14.8V (2~4S Li-po)
Kv : 1450 rpm/V within 10%
Current capacity : 45A/30s
Dimensions : 35mm X 42mm / 1.38in X 1.65in
Shaft diameter : 4mm / 0.16in
Weight : 132g
Number of poles/magnets : 14
Recommended model weight : 1000~2300g / 35~81oz
Power equivalent : .30 to .35 IC  glow engine

Suggested prop size: 11x5

The model weighs 3lb 8oz all up, the motor will take it up very fast at an angle of about 70 degrees reaching thermalling height in about 6 seconds, for a vertical climb at this wattage I would need a slower motor and bigger prop
It thermals well able to  slow up a little and turn fairly tight, there are no flaps so landing is rather fast, I have programmed both ailerons to go up, this does not do a lot as the ailerons are very short.

Definitely not an F5B competition model but pleasant to fly and a climb  at about 60 MPH should be fast enough for the average club flyer


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I recently changed the motor on my Multiplex Fox  to this 7 gram Micro Out runner model  X1304B x1.
The fox tip stalled  with the 12gram motor it is a little better with this motor
rated at 2100 KV, with a 2.5 amp maximum current turns 5 x 2 GWS direct drive prop. at cruise it draws 1 amp from a 250 ma 2 cell lipo
At full throttle it produces 2.3 oz of thrust at an input power of 16 watts, all up weight is 2.5 oz, performance is adequate and plenty for most people if flown indoors 



FOR SALE , For use by club members and others in Gloucestershire, send to

If an item has been sold please email me, Phil

newly listed  Items 


Wanted, a Din to Square Futaba trainer lead. If you have one for sale please call Bill on 07973 118473.

For Sale
10" x 5" x 4mm thick gyro tape, this can be used to mount gyros, rec, servos and more . £3 a sheet 
Cyanoacrylate (Super Glue) thin type 20g container  . 75p a tube 
Zippy lightmax 2200 20c 3cell batteries fitted with deans plugs . £20 

flightmax 130mah batteries. For the mcx or vapor £3 each
Flightmax 800 3 cell batteries suitable for Trex 250 £10 each
HXT 900 micro servo 9g/1.6kg/.12 sec £4 each


List of items for sale click here for details

Wanted, a Din to Square Futaba trainer lead. If you have one for sale please call Bill on 07973 118473.
Phoenix flight sim,  
JR 2610 TX complete with Nicad battery, R700 receiver and genuine charger  
Also a 6mm heli starter drive £5.00 again new never used.
60 inch Slope soarer,
ATS Kite
64" with OS46 + servos,
Hanger 9 Cub 66" with new sc46 + servos, flown once,
Flair Piper cub 72" damaged, 
Hitec focus 6, Sanwa vanguard 6, 
Sanwa RD6000 sport, field box with control panel,
2 starters, glow starters, fuel pump, fuel and lots of accessories. 
Futaba crystals RX88, TX80, RX71, RX71 dual conversion,
Wanted  RX84,
Hanger 9 Cub £150 Tel 01452 714701
Irvine Pro Sealing Iron & Top Gun heat gun open to offers SOLD
Mini Titan, XL Pro 2K, Raptor 30
Don's PC9 £150 complete PC-9 45 * 


Slope & soaring





A strong breeze at Frocester, a little too strong for most of us. The wind went round to the north in the evening and there was some flying on Selsley 

A bit of thermalling on Minch or rather lack of it me and Andy flew  three of my self launching gliders 

Some strong lift at Minch and lots of sink, in one period me John struggled to find lift with our Highlights 

This started out well with gentle slope lift and plenty of small thermals, as the thermal got stronger the slope lift disappeared and patches of sink caused a few problems 
Bryan thermalled his ASK18, Mike Alula was great fun, Mick managed to miss all the thermals with his Highlight. dated 14-june

Chedworth aerotow

A mixed day, Steve Holland was unable to attend and Mario's tug crashed while trying to tow up Doug's glider. I had a fly with Len's scale Motor  glider, this thermalled with the engine ticking over. perfect weather with good thermals. lots of gliders flown and a jet.
Photos at dated 14-june


Next club meeting Wednesday 17th June  6.30 for 7.00PM start, electric flying and glider golf on Minchinhampton common and later to the Bear, We are using balloon's instead of flags to save model damage

July 15th 6.30 for 7.00PM electric thermal comp, any model with an electric motor

The thermal comp against Malvern SA will be July 26th at Fish Meadow

August 23rd Sunday  club thermal competition 9.30 for 10.00AM start

Photo added to web site 



Events & Shows

This isn't intended to be the definitive list of all the events and shows in the country, just one's that might be of interest to club members

June 20th/21st. Berkeley, South Bristol Club. Vintage control line GL13 9DE.
20th & 21st June - Biggs event at Pottes .  For more details check the new Biggs website
Jun 20-21  Weston Park  Model Show
June 21st. Midsummer "bash" 
Jun 27-28 

 BEFA Middle Wallop International Electric Fly In Weekend Middle Wallop, Nr Andover, SO20 8DY. 

Contact Bob Mahoney on 01494 521838 or or see or
27th or 28th -  TVSA open events at Siege Cross. Click here for location detail
Jul 4&5 Woodspring 
Jul 18-19 LMA Cosford 2 Day Airshow M54, West Midlands. Contact Dave Johnson on 01925 811763 or or see
Aug 15 (or 16) 

Thames Valley Scale Aerotow Event

Siege Cross, Nr Thatcham, Berkshire. For Details See
21st - 23rdm Aug Bristol model exhibition Thornbury  
Aug 29-30-31  BMFA British National Championships 
Aug 29-30-31

 SAM 1066 Vintage EurochampsInc Dixielander Celebration Event on Sunday. Middle Wallop, Nr Andover,

 SO20 8DY. Contact Mike Parker on 0118 948 1392 or or see
29 August OPEN DAY Gaer Park At junction 28 on the M4 take the roundabout exit signposted A48 St. Mellons.
Follow the A48 for St. Mellons & Castleton 
Sep 5-6 LMA Much Marcle Show Herefordshire, HR8 2LX. Contact Bernard Morris on 01989 740619 or 07720 677056 or or see
September 13th Autumn Barbeque 
25-27th Sept 3D heli championship  J8 M5 







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